Hi all,

this is a new label (to me anyway) thats releasing a number of rare recordings. Anybody got any more info? Apparently there are a number of unreleased Warhorse albums to be released.

https://upcomingvinyl.com/label/seelie-court

I see discogs have a list of recordings the label has done all in 2020 Warhorse is mentioned

Interestingly a lot of the listings on Discogs for this label have comments/reviews by someone called Black Shuck. I could be wrong about this but based upon some of the comments made, and some previous dealings I had on ebay with someone using the same name, I strongly suspect that this is actually the same person who formed the original Kissing Spell reissue label, don't really want to name him here but I'm sure everyone knows who this was. The style of the releases on this label would tend to back that up as a lot of them are stylistically close to the sort of thing that Kissing Spell were releasing. Black Shuck also seems to have some knowledge of forthcoming releases on Stelie Court which would lead me to the conjecture that he is in some way connected to the label itself.

Ellie is that good news or negative news?

I'll let you decide about that. There were some very welcome releases on Kissing Spell but at least one album which was purporting to be a rerelease of a rare album had bits added to it and another was released as a live album but was actually studio recordings with fake audience noise. He did make some very hard to find music available though and that has to be applauded. Some of the things on this new label are extremly difficult to find too so as long as they're straight reissues and are not messed around with then I think that should be applauded too.

Yes kissing spell messed about with the Axe album including flanging effects and in particular messing about with one song, which is the first cd reissue of this rare recording!! this has since been released again, but this time with no messing about with the mix of the recordings, this time issued under the real name crystaline as axe music, a fab little UK psych album,there's also a supposed live album, which I've not heard that kissing spell released also

In general I like kissing spell as a label,they issued many of the recordings made at holyground studios, like astral navigation, thundermother, jumble lane, GYGAFO amongst many others from this studio, they have issued many little known late 60s and mainly early to mid 70s folk and folk rock albums from the UK and Ireland,they also did a rare cd of mellow candle, including songs I'm sure that are not on the fabulous swaddling songs album, those are demos etc and is a great cd release,they also issued a Dark cd set of alternate recordings and demos,one wee complaint about many of their releases is the often scant liners, not a lot of information on many of those releases, many albums they have reissued are so rare, so it would be great to know more about them, but maybe they didn't have any more info as those records are that rare! Many of their cds can be quite pricey, some are impossible to find now, so it's a good label concerning many rare and often unheard recordings and albums, so I thank them for giving the likes of me the opportunity to hear those recordings!!some truly fabulous folk, acid folk and folk rock cd reissues.

Thirteen releases all coming out at a similar time? I can only find one related to Warhorse. Most seem to be folk related.

Let's just hope all the artist get some penny...

Thanks for the input all. There are 50 releases lined up apparently so that might be where the other Warhorse LPs are. I have that Axe live CD Stuart but from memory its ok cover versions. Found it in a record shop in Singapore of all places along with a couple of other Kissing Spell releases.

I too don't know the individual involved in Seelie Court but might get one or two of the LPs. If anyone has a copy of any of the SC releases maybe they could let us know how they sound?

Hi Gian,

If you look at the first post, there is also a schedule for the early releases.


https://www.discogs.com/user/black-shuck/reviews?header=1&page=2

Thanks Paul, I thought the missing ones were already listed somewhere ;)

hey i am late to the party here, what exactly has he done regarding kissing sprll?? I plan on Buying some these records be ive wanted them reissued for a while, but id like to know about the founder if hes a jerk

I've never managed to find a website for them which I find rather curious if it's a legit label.

Mar 15th, 2021 - 3:33 PM

please elaborate. I pretty much buy..well REAL music by REAL artists so what are the fake recordings?? I'm pretty sure most of them are real. I know that axe lp had the Fake Audience noise, but what else

Black Shuck
In English folklore, Black Shuck, Old Shuck, Old Shock or simply Shuck is the name given to an East Anglian ghostly black dog which is said to roam the coastline and countryside of East Anglia, one of many ghostly black dogs recorded in folklore across the British Isles. Wikipedia
There is a Black Shuck Records as well but it only has records by Big Bill Morganfield..son of Muddy Waters

More info here-


https://www.discogs.com/label/1913411-Seelie-Court/reviews

Unseelie Court.

Unseelie Court is the sister label of Seelie Court. It will be releasing unknown/unreleased punk and post punk records. All of the Seelie Court releases are authentic and sensitively remastered. As much as possible they are done with explicit formal artist permission. If the artists are truly uncontactable then they are clearly declared as Musicians Missing In Action (MMIA), hopefully they will get in touch and get their due rewards! No there isn't a website, SC is an analogue operation as much as possible. Why does everyone need a website? Likewise SC do not give LPs away to magazines etc. hence, guess what: no reviews. Heaven forfend that the only way you review something is if you get it for free. The LPs have exclusive distribution by fminor and all releases so far have been sold out to the major retailers. There are 12 further issues due to be released in the early summer, Covid has caused delays. Look on the Juno website for details. Hope that clears things up for everyone.

Of course it's not necessary for everyone to have a website. However, when you put a website address on your record sleeves then is it not reasonable for your customers to expect that site to actually exist?

I have 3 Seelie Court lps -Flux, Lifeblud and John Strang, they are all beautifully presented with textured Gatefold sleeves and the sleevenotes are by the bands! So its obvious they are legal editions. I found this forum looking for more info about the label, their website isn't working, maybe they have "placeheld" the domain. What i find a bit strange is the nasty vibe on your forum, lots of negative speculation and someone who seems to have a chip on his shoulder or jealous making comments when he/she doesnt even seem to have the lps!

I don't see any connection to Kissing Spell, and anyway that was a very good label and official, I for one was very happy to get Dark on CD for a tenner and from Master Tapes too! They have 140 releases on Discogs! Is Purple Pumpkin claiming Dark, Sindelfingen, Stone Angel etc are fake!? Thats rubbish, and i heard both Axe lps were altered with the bands agreement. I don't believe anyone ever met or knew the owner of that label, though i remember he had a reputation for calling a Spade a Spade, and its true the sleevenotes were scanty. Did anyone here ever hear their Dancer CD ? Its fantastic and Anthony Minghella was in the band! Director of The English Patient. How did they pull that off ? I wish it was on Vinyl though.

Back to Seelie Court, they announced 12 new LPs on Discogs, and i can recommend the quality of the 3 i own , Lifeblud is brilliant, Flux is pure Progressive but is a bit intense to listen to, and John Strang's lp is lovely. There are press cuttings, lyrics, and sleeve notes by band members in the Gatefolds, and John Strang' s lp has an extra insert.

Discogs also mentions that they have scheduled lps up to number 80 on the catalogue numbers, im into music, not gossipy whinging i don't know about you lot, if any label is going to issue 80 Prog lps I'm all for it!!!

Copied and Pasted from a Discogs post - frankly fantasic if these really come out I'd need a 2nd Mortgage to buy the originals. Says sleevenotes are all by the bands, including Mourning Phase and that must be the first time they have been found, no one i know knows anything about who they were. Also says RICK WAKEMAN has written some sleevnotes. If this is all true its maybe the best new label for Donkeys Years.



sclp 007 grannie (1971) sleevenotes by band & family

sclp 009 ntp (1969) mmia series

sclp 010 barney james and warhorse - koneg the second coming (1975) sleevenote by Rick Wakeman

sclp 011 motiffe (1973) sleevenotes by band

sclp 012 isolation (1973) + free DVD of 1973 Isolation film, a beautifully shot 18 minute piece reminiscent of new wave cinema made to accompany live performances of the lp in 1973, sleevenotes by band

sclp 013 mourning phase (1971) sleevenotes by 3 band members

sclp 014 bertie (1970) sleevenotes by band & pals

sclp 015 crooked oak - from little acorns grow (1975/76) by kind permission Steve Evans widow

sclp 016 slave - the poet, the lover and the madman (1969) mmia series

sclp 017 the benjamin delaney lion - satori (1969) sleevenotes by band

sclp 018 steve brown band - soul full of sin (1972-1973) a lost masterpiece

sclp 019 hellmet - judgement day (1970) sleevenotes by band

sclp 020 - sclp 080 are confirmed and scheduled. most are hitherto unknown british undergound lps

PS . Here is an Online Blog i found from someone who bought all the Seeley Court LPs so far. He seems to be in Germany or Japan, the same Blog is also on a Japanese site in Japanese language. He gives everything glowing reviews. I cant find anything else online, Black Shack on Discogs gives a lot of information, i read more of his posts there and they seem more knowledgable than Posts on your site!!! No offence, but for example he blows the whistle on how many Vertigo lps were made and lots of people approved of that. It also seems likely that Nose Plate who posted above is part of the label or the owner.

Read This . The reviewer says the label is excellent and reviews all the LPs


https://deref-mail.com/mail/mobile/CmVpY8iAlC0/deref/?redirectUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fpopgruppen.com%2F2021%2F04%2F07%2Ffaerie-tales-from-seelie-court%2F

And so the pathetic trolling begins....

I didn't start this thread, we were asked to give our opinions on a new label. I had strong opinions about the person behind it which I have expressed and given reasons for, but I made it clear they were my personal opinions and I haven't named him. Pict Power is very clearly the same person and also black-shuck on discogs, anyone who thinks otherwise is just being conned. Some may think what he did, how he justified it and how he conducts himself is ok, I don't. Anyway, I'm out of here.

As the person who did start this thread I was hoping for some discussion from our knowledgeable contributors about the rare music being released. That means - what is good/bad or indifferent and maybe other issues like sound and product quality. The label was new to me as were some of the releases (despite many many years collecting psych music).


Therefore I must strongly echo Stuart and Ellies point that personal abuse is uncalled for.


This forum is generally one of the more pleasant music sites where people are treated respectfully.

Lets keep it that way please.

I'll be honest paul,i'd never heard of Seelie Court till your post a couple of weeks ago or so,i take it this is just a vinyl only company?No cd reissues?As i dont buy vinyl,haven't done for many years,and won't in the future,it seems quite a few companies who were mainly cd reissues like Sundazed,lion productions,guerssen,are now mainly vinyl reissues and releases,i'm so glad that the likes of Cherry Red and its platoon of labels are still mainly cd releases,for the music i search for,mainly 60s and early 70s psych albums,there seems to be fewer albums getting reissued on cd.

I also don't frequent discogs,so my nose is getting the better of me,so i may have to have a neb and see what albums are being reissued,are they mainly UK groups and albums?

Hi Stuart,
I hadn't heard of them either - thats why I posted. Yes its all vinyl label so far anyway and many lesser known UK bands and UK private pressings. Theres a good bit of prog
present so quite like a vinyl only Kissing Spell. I bought two LPs so far - Anaconda and Lifeblud. Both are very nice packages which are professionally produced. The excellent Waxing of the Moon by Lifeblud made it onto the Strangers in a Room Cherry Red comp. I found both albums reasonably enjoyable with a strong folky bent. I will probably buy more.

I have absolutely no association with the label.

It looks everything's stuck at Seelie Court...? can't see any more releases actually available... which would be a pity anyway

Again. No CD release. Why? Why the music labels suddenly forget about the music collectors, who kept the CD business working for 30+ years. It is a long time I am waiting for the CD release of the Motiffe. At first it was issued by the Shadoks Music only on vinyl. Now the Seelie Court has done the same. Frustrating and disappointing.

I would assume that record labels, especially the smaller ones, see that it is no longer viable financially to release cd's as the sales are now so low.

A few CDs on the way, hopefully!
https://www.heyday-mo.com/catalog/index.php

Lifeblud, Elegy (I own their single) and Karakorum sound very interesting. Found some Karakorum info here http://martinchambersofficial.blogspot.com/2019/11/8th-november-2019.html

and especially this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgWp_Dutkdg&ab_channel=tuckedup

Thats the next 12 cds released by Seelie Court,including 2 Lifeblud cds,plus a double cd of recordings from a member from Lifeblud from the mid 70s onwards,there seems to be more folk and prog leaning albums than albums of psychedelia,but i'm very happy with that,as i enjoy all that too,particularly the more obscure folk that has a twist, its just incase anyone who is a psychedelia only enthusiast,as there are people who like a particular thing,and dont venture past certain years,a few of the albums in this batch are from 73 to 75,Flux,Crooked Oak,Across The Water,Rudi Tchaikovsky,Motiffe,Isolation and a double cd of ex Lifeblud member Roger Knott from the years 73-78,but there are some very interesting early 70s albums like the concept piece from Bertie,the hippie folk of Mourning Phase,Rainbird with lovely artwork for their album"Maiden Flight",2 Lifeblud albums"Esse Quam Videri"and"Be Thou My Very Armour".

Ive only listened to a few,mainly the early 70s albums,so i cant comment on the wee bit later albums,i'm finding this whole excavation of those extremely rare recordings and albums rivetting,many are private pressed,or boutique albums,as theres an album where only 2 acetates were cut,one each for the duo........though all of it may not be up my street,its very interesting none the less,for someone like myself who has interest in this era.

The last batch of cds had some trully good albums,like ex Arcadium mainman Miguel Sergides group Anaconda"Sympathy for The Madman",this so far for me has been the find of the bunch,Sandalwood"Changeling"i was very smitten with this lovely album,and the 75 album by Barney James and Warhorse"Koneg,The Second Coming.

I hear there are more to come,so i'm highly anticipating my interest to stay focused and rivetted,because in truth i've neve heard of most of those albums till this reissue series.......

Checking through black shuck comments on discogs, next year we should see also Colonel Bagshot, Bob Hughes, and new editions of Dark, Soho Orange, Team Dokus...

Seelie court releases are really cool even though i don't know anything about the founder or the people behind it. It's great to see a new label coming up with unknown recordings or great reissues (apparently a reissue of dark is on the way i'm waiting for it). The only thing that bothers me is that there is no demo, some album seem cool but I can only find one song to listen to and it's not enough to make an opinion. I think it's a rather strange way of advertising your products + having no site seems weird for a label in 2022, if they can sell then good for them but having no sound demo for some releases that never released before is quite ironic!

@blanchistone On this page you will find thirty second samples, this is all I can recommend. Type Seelie Court in the search box, then I recommend you to tick a Out Of Stock on the left, too.

https://www.juno.co.uk/search/

I searched online and couldn't find much information about Seelie Court either, there's no website (although theres a registered domain name), but there's a new article on Its Psychedelic Baby website which has photos and downloads of 3 bands and mentions there will be further collaborations with the label and interviews with the bands they are releasing.

This link has music and photographs of Mythicus, The Windfall and Team Dokus, some excellent psychedelic folk from what looks like unreleased albums, I've never heard of any of these before, and a totally hippie photo of Mythicus -


https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2022/02/seelie-court-the-mysterious-archive-label-exclusive-stream-of-unissued-tracks-from-the-70s.html

Windfall track is really promising! I've already a few tracks from Mythica and they are very good!

Yeah I like the Mythica and Windfall tracks, also found these links and by far my favourite is the moody Great Crash song;


Great Crash - Deaddire Echoes


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=26wDdIjHC14



Rainbird Maidenvale (Full album, I don't like this one!)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oMw7PEiib10


Flux Full Album (Very intense Prog)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SeGBFlBmVvY

Man ,i'm really enjoying what Seelie Court is doing,giving plebs like me the chance to not just hear but also have the opportunity to own some version on cd and vinyl of mega rare private pressings,acetates,local studio demos etc. from the 60s and 70s of all types of music,but in Seelie Court,it seems to be mainly little known or heard recordings and albums,mainly in the folk,psychedelic,progressive genre,which is tremendous to hear "different" and not the ones we all know and love ,but for our ears,when you think a genre you love,is near the empty,and this WHOLE private and other world of records and sounds from many local groups doing it as a hobby.in small and mainly demo studios,recording album a few copies for them,their family and friends,and many sound good,actual good songwriting,musicianship and for rather good sound quality on tape and when its cut too..........ok yes,some do sound awful in every way with low quality sound,awful singing or group,.......but for those that where strictly amateur,there were those examples of extremely well recorded ,great fresh sounding quality mixed with fab musicianship,good songwriting and strong material,and lofty ideas to record their own very low cost Sgt Pepper,or something rather more mundane,is BRILLIANT,and whenever i hear Seelie Court are issuing another 8 little known or totally unheard and local recorded albums,i always show real interest ,as i'm still a music nut and appreciate a very low cost example of Moody Blues kind of music, as the real moody blues with top studio sound and budget.Both excite me.

One complaint,is not the sound,as Seelie Court seem to try and get the best quality sound possible from some crumbling acetate....so it can be listenable and not total hiss and crackles and not enjoyable to hear........as many do end up sounding.So i appreciate that,because so many of those private presses,vanity projects,demo albums etc are being saved from total rot,and many had so little budget they could only press 10 copies of that album ,so say 50 years later ,many of those seelie court releases sound very good,even though you can only do so much with very poor quality recordings or poor sounding equipment having been used back then,or the presser of the record totally cocking up the sound on the wax.Hats off to them for unearthing some cracking albums,....but their print on many of their cds,liners and artwork,clash,so you can dark colour on dark colour,so you cant really read the notes,or see the artwork,it is very small to read as the letters are in tiny print,mix that with the clash of similar colours,the liners can be unreadablde for many.......a TINY grouch,..........i know.

More interesting unknown music to be released soon, Nemesis looks very good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QkmOeHcIo&ab_channel=iamdamosuzuki_

and also Marvelous Kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Z0so0BCz8&ab_channel=KernowBeat

Greenfly, Aardvark (not the Decca ones) and more Great Crash recordings sound promising too

You can read more about Marvelous Kid here http://kernowbeat.co.uk/marvelous.html

I had the pleasure of digitising all of Tony's MK archive and there is some good stuff in there. If this release goes well there are hopefully several more MK releases to come on Seelie Court

RP - there's an article about Marvelous Kid in the next issue of Shindig Magazine, they are an excellent Art Rock band, its unbelievable they never had any releases at the time as they were way better than many bands that got signed.

PsychedelicBaby are now on board with Marvelous Kid, a very extensive article including interviews.

https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2023/09/marvelous-kid-interview-incredible-70s-progressive-rock.html

Rough Trade site has a bit of history about SC

https://www.discogs.com/user/WestCoastDreams/reviews?header=1

Dear Psychedelic Forum,

Replying to the above dimwit,

The remastering on most Kissing Spell releases is credited on the sleeves to Gary Ramon, the talented musician behind Sundial. Including Axe. To suggest otherwise is a lie.

Kissing Spell LLC is a registered company with 7 named Directors, none of whom are "Steven Smith". This information is freely available via Company Searches with the British Government. It is part of a larger financial/legal group and nothing to do with Seelie Court. If it was, quite obviously, Seelie Court would release those magnificent LPs like Shire and Acorn, Stone Angel and Dancer, along with the entire Holy ground series. However, those rights are tied up, and no other label can release them.

Rights in Charge are owned by Dave Ellis and Seelie Court, they are currently working TOGETHER on releasing their 2nd unissued LP. Eg they are collaborating. Seelie Court outbid Guerssen for that deal, which is why the LP switched labels. Eg the artists were paid more money by Seelie Court. That's nothing against Guerssen, just business.

Suggesting Charge etc is fake is absurd

Nothing on either label or any other similar label is "Faked", that's vindictive nonsense. The artists signed to Seelie Court are mostly documented via old gig ads and press cuttings, and are being interviewed in an ongoing series of articles on the famous It's Psychedelic Baby website.

Alco, The Great Crash, Lifeblud, Aardvark (Scotland) etc are all interviewed. To claim any of these people are "Fake" is absurd.

Nobody would spend the time and money trying to recreate old sounds by uncommercial bands when the market for reissues is capped at about 500. They don't make money, to pay musicians to 'fake' them is a monumentally stupid concept.

Personally I do not believe any such reissue lps have ever been faked. There are LPs on other labels that are seemingly Backdated, but not on Seelie Court.


There are THOUSANDS of unreleased bands and LPs. So let's spend £6000 to try to sound like a 1973 band who are not as good as Stray and will struggle to sell 300 lps? Yes, sure. Financial genius.

Mastering on Seelie Court is top notch. Every LP is approved by the artists at every stage, artwork, sleevenotes and Mastering.

Many of the artists have been studio engineers themselves, eg the Great Crash created LOCO Studios in Wales, where Oasis and the Verve recorded their classic 90s LPs. These people know more about mastering than the nobody who posted above.

There have however been 3 Recalls on Seelie Court. That's down to pressing problems during Covid and the Vinyl Shortage, when quality control declined. Those LPs were recalled, recycled and repressed at cost as swiftly as possible.

Abbey Road has mastered some Seelie Court lps, one of the greatest studios of all time.

The above post is by a known internet troll who was asked to stop contacting Seelie Court after bombarding them with literally hundreds of emails begging to be involved. There's something wrong with him. Eg why is he posting this nonsense all over the net and this forum ? He's bitter and feels rejected.

Many people have kindly assisted Seelie Court, a label that operates at non-profit and is bankrolled by the owners.

It has brought 100 lps to public attention in just 3 years, many of which were lost and unknown prior to that.

It has done the exact opposite of "Gatekeeping", it has done a service to British Rock Music, to the best of its ability, and issued material that no one else has issued in over 50 years.

It has possibly the largest repertoire of unissued lps of any such label and is doing its damnedest to issue them all in a failing niche market.

It is simply not possible to issue them all at once. It released 24 lps in a short period this year, too much for the small market to handle.

It works closely with all the artists and is currently involved with some very important material and struggling through complex rights issues to enable it to be released. It will be of extreme interest to anyone on this forum into genuine British psychedelia as it forms an historic bridging point to the formation of the world's greatest rock band. To some that may be Marmalade. To others there's an obvious band name we hope you may guess.

The label welcomes any constructive criticism. In fact intelligent criticism is actively sought. The label is an ongoing organically expanding entity that is a work in progress, it has for example responded to legitimate criticism that back covers were rather weakly designed,and changed the designers and style.

A staggering amount of work goes into each release. The Dark series cost £100,000. To suggest the people doing that, releasing uncommercial archival music that will struggle to break even, are working AGAINST music is bizarre.

Falsely stating artists are 'Fake' is not criticism, and a normal reviewer would not mount personal attacks on individuals he/she has never met, any music fan would focus on the music.

So the above post is transparently suspicious and vindictive and not trustworthy.

If the individual responsible would like to kindly name any "fake" artists on Seelie Court please do so, £50k says he cannot, because there are none.

It's an extreme shame this forum and others allow their sites to be exploited by people like this, it's frankly embarrassing.

As an (uninteresting) aside, it is actually a fact that the owners of Seelie Court do NOT collect records and are non-materialistic.

Seelie Court is actively looking for people who may be able to provide sleevenotes or anything of interest to the label that may benefit releases and the artists. The label is also working on some behind the scenes collaborations with other labels and different forms of media.

Specifically, if anyone out there has a strong local knowledge of SCOTTISH music especially 1965-1976, we would love to get in touch with a view to researching bands, trying to liberate important recordings, and possibly providing sleevenotes. No cash would be involved, as the label doesn't make any, but free copies of available records would be provided.

If someone feels they could do that post an email here. Yes Stuart Robertson, if you made it this far, and I understand if you didn't, you should contact Seelie Court direct. If you love Scotland. Hint, what were Robert Burns and William Mc Gonagall ?

Forum member GIAN has helped Seelie Court, I believe he received about 25 free albums in exchange with more to come, he could possibly confirm that if asked.

Whoever Steve Smith is probably a fake name wether he bought or was a partner of Kissing Spell. Kissing Spell at least at the very beginning was started by Pete Sarfas. Seelie Court Label Not On Social Media And No Website.

Eh, copying and pasting from another site with an unkind "review"is unfair, and to do it in anonymous fashion is ingenuine,and this IS clearly an attack of sorts, with incorrect information and naming people is again not fair particularly when you don't give your OWN name..
I DO believe in free speech and expression, but the details have to be correct and factual, and NOT just an attack on a person, if it was a fair critique of a product bought, that IS different

Theres enough nastiness out there, so let's not bring it in here eh?

I did have a rather heated conversation with the chap behind Kissing Spell on here last year after I criticized their Axe CD release as part of a review I did on the Guerssen CD reissue of Crystalline Axe Music,
I stated the fact that the Guerssen cd had 5 tracks, while the first Kissing Spell Axe CD had created other tracks and also added effects, in essence it had been mucked about with, the chap took deep offence at me stating those facts in my review,but I replied that I paid for it, like I do for every CD review I do, there's no freebies like magazines etc, get,i buy my own cds, which as far as I'm concerned gave me the right to point out to others any issues with said bought cd

It was NOT a personal attack on the individual,it was a critique on a product he released, on the music contained within the cd, but he certainly took it personally, even though I have ALL the Kissing Spell cds released,I bought them ALL,including the many 70s folk cds, and elsewhere on this forum I've hyped up Kissing Spell cd releases... so I suggested when you're in business of producing product to be sold, having feedback from customers is ALWAYS beneficial whether it's good or bad feedback,as you learn from mistakes and make that product better, it's common sense.
So we had a ding dong, back and forth, it got to the stage,i had"real"issues to deal with in life, and having to deal with an adult with a bruised sensitive ego was NOT one of then,so i said if he's not happy to fuck off and take his legal threats to someone who gives a shit,as I literally couldn't give a shit about his hurt feelings,I thought to myself grow up and have a pair of balls mate, this is a wee discussion group NOT some big magazine
.

It was so surreal having a complete stranger threatening legal guff, and being rather nasty, THAT does not work with me,it makes me more determined to NOT be cooperative,I did leave the whole thread of posts up for others to read,so others could comment if they wanted,as I'm a believer in free speech, free expression, but NOONE seemed to have any comments,so because that thread of Posts were so toxic and uncomfortable,I deleted my discussion with him,as I did NOT want that negativity effecting anyone else.

So I've NO idea if this individual is once again taking part on here, but one thing I did take from my ding dong with him, everyone is mental or deranged according to him, but he was the one who came across as deranged on this wee discussing group with his threats and behavior over 1 fucking cd, THAT is deranged behavior!!

So if this bloke IS here again,he can bugger off as far as I'm concerned as I DON'T deal with people who threaten and intimidate, and act like a bully,so If it is him, BUGGER OFF,I certainly DON'T welcome your presence.

Well said Stuart.

Threatening legal action over an opinion on a forum is just pathetic. This is meant to be a fun place to share music and opinions, not unhinged stuff like that, life is too short and there is more than enough conflict on the internet already.

In the interests of reality:

Steve Smith does exist and it is his real name. He was the founder and sole operator of Kissing Spell records.He sold the catalogue and brand name to a major reissue label many years ago, but the vast majority of the releases were his, certainly pretty much anything that would interest members of this forum. Some were authorised, some were not. Before Kissing Spell he issued a couple of other LPs: Samantha Productions Vol 1 and Sindelfingen. After Kissing Spell he had a short-lived Drum and Bass label, Nocturnal. He then ceased to be active in making records until he started up Seelie Court Records a couple of years ago, which is pretty much Kissing Spell Mk 2. Again,this is a one man operation, Seelie Court is just his trading name. He has lived outside the UK for many years, firstly in the Czech Republic now in Italy.

On this forum he has appeared as both Pict Power and May Twitz. On Discogs he is Black Shuck.

Hopefully that helps clear things up!